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== Old stuff ==

Btw, shouldn't we better add new entries here at the end of the text? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 23:02, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
:Not really, old stuff is getting pushed to the bottom which is nice :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)
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Hi, if I add a JPG with the '|thumb' command, it doesn't show on the page (e.g. [[CPC Schneider International]]). What am I doing wrong? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 01:02, 5 August 2006 (CEST)
:I also think, that the "thumb" feature is not working yet. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 03:18, 5 August 2006 (CEST)
: I'm having troubles with the permissions on the server. The Wiki needs the image folder to be chmod'ed to 777, but some of the subfolders do not have full access yet. I'm trying to chmod all of them, but how do I make sure that the newly created ones will be 777? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 08:38, 5 August 2006 (CEST)
::if you need help or Shell-Access on the server to do chmod -r comands on dirs, just give me a call and i will set it up for you. [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:27, 5 August 2006 (CEST)
:::Problem solved indeed :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 16:38, 5 August 2006 (CEST)
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'''Real names with the pseudonym?''' Shall we add the real names to the scene-informations as we know it? Maybe it's very helpfull to add the real name to remember the persons. So in my case i will add "Kangaroo MusiQue (Thorsten Norman Mitschele). What do you think about that? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:48, 5 August 2006 (CEST) 
:Well, absolutely, why not? I mean, there's nothing stopping you doing so anyway, and in general a real name would be welcome indeed, to go with the pseudonym... Maybe a photo too :)
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Maybe its possible to make a list of all software-houses like Ocean, Alligata etc. Where we can add some nice informations about those companies?
: You can actually add a link yourself. If you go into The [[Games]] section you can add a link about [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Category:Computer_and_video_game_companies Software Houses] and start adding. Maybe I will add it to the sidebar as well :) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:35, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
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Why does the crap keep getting posted at the bottom of the main page... bloody spammers! [[User:Executioner|Executioner]]
:Indeed... I have noticed your work (you always get to it faster than me!), and I really thank you for that. This is what you get for allowing posts without registering, but I think it's worth it continuing like this, at least for a while, and see how it goes... Thanks so much! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 02:16, 22 July 2006 (CDT)
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I think it will be a good idea to do localisation. So i can add or translate Pages into german, cause my english writing is not that good as needed for the wiki. I'll do my best, but hey.. there are a few users around wich cannot write nor read english, so it will be a help for them. What do you think about localisation? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:31, 5 August 2006 (CEST)

: I would be a little bit afraid, that this could split up our forces, as it is a lot additional work. Maybe people would start writing only in their native languages. Better to have an article in bad english (which can be corrected by other people) than having it only in a "local" language (which can't be read by other people). But that's just my opinion. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 13:12, 5 August 2006 (CEST)

:: I have the same opinion like Prodatron. It's much more work and both Wikis will be different. You can see an example for that situation on the [http://wiki.gp2x.org GP2X Wiki] and this device has a much bigger userbase. I guess the most common language should be used, so we should write greek.... aehm... english ;-). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:57, 5 August 2006 (CEST)

: I think this was discussed before... I'm not against content in other languages, but I'm worried this will lead to lots of content being in French, German or Spanish, hence for a limited audience. So I was thinking that maybe it should be allowed as long as an english translation is provided. In any case, maybe we can allow it with the provision that this will, eventually, be translated. But if we see that no translations are done, then maybe it shouldn't continue... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 16:38, 5 August 2006 (CEST)
:: i dont think its clever to do it that way so it will be better to have only english as main language. the problem also will be, that the content will move away in different languages, so information will be vailable in german but are not at the english page and so on. dont know how it can be handled to have everything with the same content in different languages
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I think it would be nice to have a menu link to technical documentation and sourcecode (routine collection) on the left side. You then can put articles like 'Hardware scrolling' in this categories... --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:14, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
: That's a really good idea - it would be nice to be able to post source code here.... --[[User:ChaRleyTroniC|ChaRleyTroniC]] 17:00, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
: Indeed it's a nice idea, and I thought about it upon looking at the source code provided over at the Zone. Will add a link when I get back from work :) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:35, 3 July 2006 (CDT)

==More Fileformats==

should be added, so upload of PDF and ZIP-Files will be possible. I Think a lot of manuals and stuff is in PDF-Format or some Freeware / Shareware / Public Domain Programmes can be directly addes to the pages (Wanted to do that with the SOundtrakkr 128K). So its will be great if someone who reads something about a demo or programm also can download the DSK or whatever to run it on an emulator or cpc.
: More file extensions allowed now. You can actually upload zip, rar (preferred due to better compression), pdf and mp3 (for all those tape conversions!). Nevertheless, can't a manual be copied as txt? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 09:00, 6 August 2006 (CEST)
:: THIS IS NOT!! working

 I have tried to upload a PDFand a ZIP. Both doesn't work. Please check that and correct it [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 22:53, 9 August 2006 (CEST)

==Adding templates:==

We should add some templates to mark articles for e.g. deletion. You can see the reason for the need for templates if you have a look at the article about [[Beau Jolly]]. You can find examples for that kind of templates in the original wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages).
:Hmmm I'm not really sure what you mean... the Beau Jolly page is a harmless prank - at least I consider it so at this point. If and when the wiki gets bigger and to such a size that systematic patrolling is needed, then I think we can start putting some mechanisms into place... For now, just reading the changes and glancing at the pages is surely enough? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:07, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
::I meant the template signs of Wikipedia to simply add warning, etc. Here is an direct example of some different marks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes We don't need all signs, of course, but some to easily mark articles for deletion or for the need of an improvement would be nice (no automatic robots - just to mark the articles). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:24, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
:::Ah, that's interesting now... I'll have to see how to implement them - unless you got some idea? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:53, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
::::I think they can just be added with copy & paste!? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:06, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
:::::I made a test with the [[Beau Jolly]] article. Unfortunately you can't do simple copy & paste because of all the internal links in the Wikipedia templates. Maybe someone can improve it. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:57, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
:I would like to see templates for different categories of software ''e.g.'' games, demos, applications, like the information boxes one sees on Wikipedia for computer games - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy_(computer_game) Wikipedia's entry on ''Spindizzy''] as an example. The problem for me at the moment is that I don't know how to create complex tables and boxes in wiki markup at the moment! :-( [[User:Nich|Nich]] 17:31, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
::I added the template for the game info boxes ([[Template:Infobox CVG]]), but currently the "parser functions" like #if: don't seem to work. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:44, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
::Ok, I found the page which explains the installation of the "ParserFunctions" extension. It have to be installed to get the template working: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#Installation --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:51, 7 August 2006 (CEST)
:::Mmmm just installed it -at least the relevant files. But, how about this line:
::: <pre>require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );</pre>,
:::it says it has to go to the end of LocalSettings.php. But if I do place it there (before the closing tag), it breaks the whole wiki... darn. Will try to look into it. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:32, 7 August 2006 (CEST)

==Math:==

Today I wanted to add some formulas (very simple!) to describe the mathmatic background of a routine. Are <math> Tags supported? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
:Which article did you edit? Can you try emailing me? You have not verified your email address and I can't send you an email... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)

==PNG==

when tryig to add a PNG-File, there occurs an error saying that the png is not correct. Can you please check if PNG is enabled in the wiki configuration. Thank you [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 21:21, 9 August 2006 (CEST)
:Will look into it, I thought i had it fixed... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)
:: Darn... I can't get it to work! what has to be done is add this line to LocalSettings.php: $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'ogg','doc','xls','ppt','mp3','pdf' ); listing all the extensions you need... well, I changed LocalSettings.php and also changed DefaultSettings.php (though not advisable), extensions are not blacklisted but it still won't work !! ARGH!!!! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 08:47, 11 August 2006 (CEST)

== Scene news ==

would be very cool... Just talking with Eliot that there are still releases that keep quite unknown. This is because we still don´t have a point were really all CPC news are collected and available. The CPCwiki could become this point I think... --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 22:01, 14 August 2006 (CEST)
: I dont know if people want it to get a "CPC Scene Wiki" :-) but i love to add more informations about scene members of the CPC but someone means that "not hard facts" are only on the discussion page welcomed.. GRRR.. maybe i shall start a CPC-Scene-Wiki with some Klatsch & tratsch sections :-)
::If we already announce upcoming CPC parties it wouldn´t be bad to integrate all the other news, too. Just my point of view of course... ;-) --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 22:46, 14 August 2006 (CEST)

==New Logo==

I had a few minutes, so I did this [http://www.cpcscene.com/wiki.png little logo] for the wiki. Feel free to use it (or not). - Grim/Arkos
: Very nice!
: Hello mate, thanks for your effort! I'm afraid it's a bit too busy, lacking a bit in coherence... I know mine is not very much cpc-related, so if you can improve yours... Cheers! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:08, 11 August 2006 (CEST)

==Talk page format==

Could we please stay with this usual format for talk pages? It is used in all the other Wikis, and as you see, there is a "+" function, which supports this format, too. Every new entry is placed at the end, not at the top. It is also more easy to jump into a section to continue the discussion there. Time by time the contributes can be moved into the [[Talk:Main Page/Archive1|archive]]. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 18:19, 12 August 2006 (CEST)

==Categories==

While there are such few categories by now we should decide whether they should be in singular or plural now. -- [[User:Ythcal|Ythcal]] 14:08, 13 August 2006 (CEST)

==Languages and countries==

Please remember: Languages and countries are written '''upper-case''' in English (eg. '''G'''ermany, '''F'''rench)! -- [[User:Ythcal|Ythcal]] 17:24, 14 August 2006 (CEST)

== Stubs ==

Do very small "stubs" make sense? I think not, as it's just disappointing to watch them. I tried to extend a lot of stubs, but again people are inserting useless 3 word entries - have a look at "short pages". It shouldn't be the goal to have as many senseless 3 word articles as possible but to create interesting information. What do you think?
: I think its necessarry to have such ages to have things in mind and to have a chance that someone can re-edit the page in knowing, its being there, instead of not remembering things. Sometimes it is very helpfull for me to find a short description about a group, a module or something and if i remember more i'll write it down.
:: I also agree to Kangaroo, it's good to have already an entry, so that we will not forget this subject. But we should add a new category "stubs", so that it's more easy to find these articles! -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 15:08, 25 August 2006 (CEST)
:::may i add "Leather Rebel" untder "Stubs-Nase" then? :-D [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 20:40, 28 August 2006 (CEST)

== FutureOS ==

Could anybody lock the FutureOS article in it´s current version? I just see the beginning of something but I´m sure how it will end.
: Done. Please provide sources of information, if you want to change anything. I also removed the last sentence ("four new features in six years"), as it could be negatively interpreted. Please do the discussion inside the articles talk page. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 18:44, 25 August 2006 (CEST)

== Unused Images ==

[[Special:Unusedimages]]
Watch out for useless files :)
--[[User:PulkoMandy|PulkoMandy]] 16:18, 13 August 2006 (CEST)

== Category "News" ==

If we start to add the news to own categories we should avoid naming the news article with "News:" as prefix, because in the category listing everything would appear under the letter 'N'. The same problem occurs with programming articles (prefix "Programming:"). Maybe we should remove the prefix from this articles? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:12, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
: Uh, good question... Somehow I like these prefixes, and as there are already sorted lists we even don't need the categories at all, but on the other hand you are also right. Don't know... -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 13:59, 28 August 2006 (CEST)
: I think we should keep the prefixes at least for the news, as the titles of this pages are not terms but small summary like sentences. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:49, 1 September 2006 (CEST)

== Discussion, Suggestions, Main Page Talk ==

Now we have:
* [[Discussion]]
* [[Suggestions]]
* [http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page Talk:Main_Page]
In the sidebar, "discussion page" is the main page talk, on the main page "discussion" is the discussion page. Maybe we should clean this up a little bit or create some definitions, what to write where? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:32, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

: I moved general discussion stuff from the Main Page talk page to the two existing pages [[Discussion]] and [[Suggestions]] and added some messages describing the rules. I still wonder, if it makes sense to split up "discussion" and "suggestions"? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 19:44, 2 September 2006 (CEST)

== Linking to WIKIPEDIA ==

currently the tag <pre>{{Wikipedia}}</pre> doesnt seem to work howcome... It does over at [http://www.c64-wiki.de/index.php/Hauptseite C64 Wiki] :-) --[[User:CPCLER|CPCLER]] 18:34, 1 September 2006 (CEST)
:Mmmm..... can you give an example? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:41, 1 September 2006 (CEST)

:: Yep.. over at [http://www.c64-wiki.de/index.php/CP/M The C64 WIKI] under section '''LINK'''. OK i could just link directly!!! But.....

:::: Sorry, I can't follow?! This template doesn't exist yet at all and what do we have to do with the links in the C64 Wiki? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 12:44, 2 September 2006 (CEST)

::: Yup, confirmed. Am trying to figure it out - sorry for the lack of support lately, I've been so busy at work I can merely glance at it usually... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]]