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These Disks couldn't be side switched manually.
 
These Disks couldn't be side switched manually.
The older models used only one side (360 Kb)
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The older models used only one side (360 KB)
 
Double side (DD) or even High Density were available.
 
Double side (DD) or even High Density were available.
  
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3"1/2
 
3"1/2
  
*DD = 720ko
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*DD = 720KB
*HD : 1,44 Mo
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*HD : 1,44 MB
  
 
5"1/4
 
5"1/4
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Nowaday, only HD 3"1/2 disk can be found at good old retailer's.
 
Nowaday, only HD 3"1/2 disk can be found at good old retailer's.
  
But or beloved CPC can't understand easily the concept of High Density Disk with 1,44Mo avalaible...
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But or beloved CPC can't understand easily the concept of High Density Disk with 1,44MB avalaible...
  
 
So you have to cheat : just put some duct-tape (scotch-tape, whatever...) on the HD Hole.
 
So you have to cheat : just put some duct-tape (scotch-tape, whatever...) on the HD Hole.
Tada, a proper DD disk with 720 Ko if your OS allows it.
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Tada, a proper DD disk with 720 KB if your OS allows it.
Or a common 2x180Ko (2x 178Ko ?) with firmware Loco Basic, if you have a manual side switcher button too of course).
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Or a common 2x180KB (2x 178KB ?) with firmware Loco Basic, if you have a manual side switcher button too of course).
  
  
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As the magnetic disk is bigger...well the format is bigger too.
 
As the magnetic disk is bigger...well the format is bigger too.
It is common to get 720Ko disk (using the 2 sides, so 80 tracks)
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It is common to get 720KB disk (using the 2 sides, so 80 tracks)
  
 
== Software's issues ==
 
== Software's issues ==
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The side switcher and A-B drive's switchers are needed only if you use old software, as most of them couldn't really figure they were loaded from B drivers, or had no such feature as double sided drives.
 
The side switcher and A-B drive's switchers are needed only if you use old software, as most of them couldn't really figure they were loaded from B drivers, or had no such feature as double sided drives.
  
They were designed for good old 3" drive so the 720Kb DD external 3"1/2 is not implemented.
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They were designed for good old 3" drive so the 720KB DD external 3"1/2 is not implemented.
  
 
But modern software designers can allow this fairly easily.
 
But modern software designers can allow this fairly easily.
  
  
Orion Prime uses the Double side feature, enabling a simple 720Kb disk with no manual side switches.
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Orion Prime uses the Double side feature, enabling a simple 720KB disk with no manual side switches.
  
 
Rick Dangerous 128+ (1.1 addon) seems to allow the game to be loaded from the B drive.
 
Rick Dangerous 128+ (1.1 addon) seems to allow the game to be loaded from the B drive.
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*[[Orion Prime]]
 
*[[Orion Prime]]
This pure awsomeness even uses a full DD disk's 80 tracks with more than 700Kb of Data, but you have to have a proper DD disk drive, as some older models may lack this feature...  
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This pure awsomeness even uses a full DD disk's 80 tracks with more than 700KB of Data, but you have to have a proper DD disk drive, as some older models may lack this feature...  
  
  

Revision as of 07:59, 26 April 2010

These Floppy Disc Drives are not the original Amstrad standard.

Yet they were far cheaper and are nowadays easier to use.

Especially the 3½" as these disk are still availlable in some retailers. You can also easily find such drives in any garbage if you properly scavenge old rusty computers.

These Disks couldn't be side switched manually. The older models used only one side (360 KB) Double side (DD) or even High Density were available.

Formats

3"1/2

  • DD = 720KB
  • HD : 1,44 MB

5"1/4

  • er...I don't remember (editors please ?)
  • 1,2 Mo was the maximum...on my old PC...


Beware : HD

Nowaday, only HD 3"1/2 disk can be found at good old retailer's.

But or beloved CPC can't understand easily the concept of High Density Disk with 1,44MB avalaible...

So you have to cheat : just put some duct-tape (scotch-tape, whatever...) on the HD Hole. Tada, a proper DD disk with 720 KB if your OS allows it. Or a common 2x180KB (2x 178KB ?) with firmware Loco Basic, if you have a manual side switcher button too of course).


PC users used to do the opposite : file a HD hole on DD disk...this worked well sometimes.

A clever choice

A great advantage at the time (in the 80's) was to get access to CP/M sofware library, as most of those were on such Floppy Disks.

Also, those Floppy Disks were far cheaper than the exotic 3", but... few CPC users actually own such drives.

Mostly professionnal users...The common snotling Gamer couldn't even dream of this (nor even knew it possible)... until nowadays.

As the magnetic disk is bigger...well the format is bigger too. It is common to get 720KB disk (using the 2 sides, so 80 tracks)

Software's issues

Many Modern CPC users replace their old 3" with an external 3"1/2, often adding a Disk drive A-B / B-A switcher (allowing the use of an external disk Drive as if it were the internal one = Drive A) and/or a side switcher to allow the use a 3"1/2 disk like a 3" disk... switching manually the sides as needed by good old 3" disk drives (yet a decent sofware can do it).


The side switcher and A-B drive's switchers are needed only if you use old software, as most of them couldn't really figure they were loaded from B drivers, or had no such feature as double sided drives.

They were designed for good old 3" drive so the 720KB DD external 3"1/2 is not implemented.

But modern software designers can allow this fairly easily.


Orion Prime uses the Double side feature, enabling a simple 720KB disk with no manual side switches.

Rick Dangerous 128+ (1.1 addon) seems to allow the game to be loaded from the B drive.


It is up to the CPC-scene to design their softwares to include those options, allowing more un-modded drives to be simply used as external B drives with no need to add extra buttons and cable assemblies on the Amstrad.

As modifying all the software library of the good old times seems impractical, yet modern era software have to use this.

Softwares released on 3"1/2 disk

This pure awsomeness even uses a full DD disk's 80 tracks with more than 700KB of Data, but you have to have a proper DD disk drive, as some older models may lack this feature...


Non 3" CPC disk drives

  • any scavenged rusty junk may be good enough nowaday, if you have a 664 or 6128...

Guide

Guide on how to connect a 3.5
Guide on how to connect a 3.5" drive to a CPC6128/664 with photos